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September 5, 2006
AC Day 1
I'm glad I waited to make my bet on Mansion (see 2 posts down), the line is now 0 and you only have to lay -107. I don't know enough about football to know if that's a good line or not (my sources say it isn't and that Miami is more than 50% likely to win) but I'm not going to bother laying it off anywhere. That costs both time and money, I can't imagine any small EV gain would be worth it. Lines are never too far off (sharp money would pounce if they were).
I'm now in Atlantic City. I played today's tournament briefly. I couldn't pick up a hand and went out towards the end of the second round. They had a lot of players, though it's impossible to say how many because they never told us. I'm not sure they even know.
They also started a half hour late. I was getting pissed off waiting (I could have slept in an extra half hour, which is not irrelevant when playing a 15 hour day) so I went and bugged the TD about it. I told him that the WSOP started on time and they had 2,200 people, surely his tournament of 600 or so could do the same. He said "there are 200 people waiting in line to register, we're waiting for them." I pointed out that that meant that they were punishing those of us who got up early and got to our seats at 11 a.m. and rewarding those too lazy to register the night before. He seemed irritated with me but started the event a couple minutes later, so maybe I had gotten through to him. Either way I'm not rushing to get to my seat tomorrow.
I'd write more, but my laptop keyboard is failing and trying to type on it is infuriating. Tomorrow I'll go look for a Best Buy and try to pick up a cheap USB keyboard. Oh wait, no I won't, I'll be busy winning a tournament.
Posted by themaroon at September 5, 2006 11:03 PM
Comments
I waited for the Mansion bet as well - too long, it seems. While I was sleeping last night waiting the few hours for my Party money to make it to my Neteller account, apparently Mansion filled their 5,000 wager quota. I didn't notice this morning until I had moved in the Neteller money and went to place the wager - the game is no longer on the board. Now I have to send them a photo ID and get my money back without making a cent. Aggravating.
And I agree that Miami looks like the better team at the moment - I was going to hedge at Pinnacle where the line was Miami +1. I was even going to move the line to MIA +1.5 to get my freeroll back. I was going to be guaranteed about $470 either way, while getting a free $1000 if the Steelers managed to win by exactly one. *sigh* If you're looking to do any serious sports wagering Pinnacle is the way to go - their lines start at -104 for NFL games instead of -110. Makes a big difference over the course of a season. (Of course, I should point out that I am just a satisfied customer, not a Pinnacle rep, not that you have any reason to believe me in that regard).
Posted by: Peter Parker at September 6, 2006 9:07 AM
Don't know if you really care, but according to Pokerpages, it was 1033.
Posted by: Kevin Mathers at September 6, 2006 12:39 PM
Betting lines aren't a prediction of the outcome of a game.
Posted by: Andy at September 6, 2006 5:42 PM
Betting lines have historically been an amazing predictor of outcomes on everything. Lines can't be too wrong or sharp money will corect them.
Posted by: Matthew Maroon at September 6, 2006 6:14 PM
The idea is to be part of the sharp money.
Posted by: Andy at September 6, 2006 10:08 PM
Well, I only bet sports when I can't lose, which I suppose makes me the sharpest of money.
Posted by: Matthew Maroon at September 6, 2006 10:13 PM
Not as sharp as the point shavers.
Posted by: Andy at September 6, 2006 11:36 PM
Good job telling off the TD for being rubbish. I hate when tourneys start late.. there's no reason other than the TD not being up to scratch.
Posted by: PokerBarney at September 7, 2006 5:57 AM
You might be screwed Matt. The promotion specifically says bet $1100 to win $1000 to qualify. Taking the line at -107 rather than -110 shouldn't entitle you to a refund, at least the way I understood the rules.
Posted by: George at September 7, 2006 8:48 AM
Hey Matt, I am a freind of george (surflexus) and I check out your blog on a regular basis and its funny that you posted this. My blog is about sports betting. I dont bet the outcomes of pro football until after week four. I only bet the over/unders I took the over at 34 points. Feel free to check out my blog it has a ton of info on it or you can email if you have any questions.
Thanks
Posted by: Shea Bailey at September 7, 2006 5:59 PM
Matt, this comment has nothing to do with the sports betting or point-shaving, but rather, with a previous slight philosophical difference between you and "Andy." Back in January, in response to a novice player who was asking some questions related to 6-handed limit games, Andy noted that he played slightly less aggressively -- especially from UTG and UTG+1 -- than you. Now, I've only been playing for about two years, and probably have no business playing short-handed games in the first place. But I enjoyed some early success at full ring games at lower limits, and starting bankroll was not a limiting factor, so I figured what the hell. I've read all the usual books, and I've repeatedly revisited your book's section on short-handed play. And while I probably haven't played enough hands short-handed (under 30,000 total) to rule out "variance," I've experienced wild swings with a slightly downward bias (roughly -.3 bb/100)
About a month ago I re-read Andy's January 6th post, and tweaked my game to incorporate his advice -- basically, folding small pairs, JT thru KT, and Ace-rag in early position. I have played about 10k hands this way (I know, I know, too small of a sample to draw any long-range conclusions). My VPIP has dropped from the mid-30s into the upper 20s, and my PFR has fallen from the mid-20s to the upper teens. My bb/hr, meanwhile, has skyrocketed to +3.
Again, I fully understand that the sample sizes are too small to draw any larger conclusions. But the improvement in my results prompted me to ask your opinion:
1) Your approach is to maximize EV over the long haul. Is there a point where you feel it might make sense for a more risk-averse player to sacrifice a little EV if it would drastically reduce short-term variance? And if so, do you feel that Andy's advice makes sense?
2) I know that you once revealed that your aggression factor was around 1.5. Have you ever gone on the record with your VPIP and PFR percentages? Or is that info classified?
Posted by: unkletony at September 9, 2006 2:24 PM
1) Yes, I suppose, though it's probably far more to your advantage to force yourself to get over risk aversion. Personally I've never considered sacrificing EV to compensate for my own flaws, I just try to fix my flaws. That's just my mindset, depending on your goals it may not be yours. If you want to be the best poker player you can it has to be, but if you just want to make some money on the side with as little stress as possible (and there's certainly nothing wrong with that) then perhaps your outlook will be different.
Also I don't think his advice reduces the variance much. In the end it may increase it, since I feel the drop in win rate will be much larger than the drop in standard deviation. Without any real sample it's impossible to say for sure one way or the other.
2) Depends on the stakes. At $5/$10 it was something like 35/25. At bigger games it drops, as players are too good for me to raise junky suited aces UTG and such.
Posted by: Matthew Maroon at September 9, 2006 2:30 PM